Colour pics of New York City in the '40s

Ok, bear with me...

Go here:

http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/cushman/search/index.jsp

put in this string and search:

country:"United States" AND state:"New York" AND city:"New York" NOT paintings

These are super cool. It really captures a flavour that is tough to put into words (well, it's tough at 2:30am).

Posted by vinny9 on January 5, 2004 with category tags of

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Speaking of colour photos, how come NASA sent this billion-dollar space probe to Mars, but gave it a black-and-white camera?
   comment by chrisdye (#15) on January 5, 2004

There are three pairs of cameras on the Spirit. These first images are from the black and white Navcam. There is another pair (also, b/w) called the Hazcam mounted lower on the rover to watch for obstacles. The colour CCD is the Pancam and I assume they wanted the first pictures quickly so only sent the b/w pics first. The colour ones can't be too far behind.

If I remember right, Opportunity should land on the opposite side of Mars later this month.
   comment by vinny9 (#33) on January 5, 2004

I've got a follow-up question. Why can't photos be sent back at the speed of light? Even from Mars, that would only take a minute or two at most (making the chinsy, black-and-white camera unnecessary).
What is the technology that one would use to send images back from deep space? Anyone?
   comment by chrisdye (#15) on January 5, 2004

well, that's a pretty complicated topic. Here's the 5 second summary:
-A picture is a grid of dots.
-Each dot can have information about it (colour requires knowing how much red, blue and green, b/w only requires a scale number from 1-100 with 1 as white and 100 as black)
-the more dots in the grid the better the picture (think of a picture that is only 2x2 dots vs a pic that is 100x100 dots). These dots are called pixels.
- a 2x2 pic has only 4 pixels, a 100x100 pic has 10,000 pixels
-for b/w 100x100 pic, you need to send 10,000 numbers from 1-100. for a colour pic you need to send 3x10,000 numbers from 1-100.

Now, how to send a signal from mars to earth (over- simplified):
-send a radio beam from surface of mars to orbiting satellite (you can't send one straight to earth or you'd lose signal as it rotated out of view, you can always keep a satellite in view).
-Have the satellite relay the info to a series of antenna on earth (they're positioned around earth [spain, australia and usa have the biggest centers i think] so that even as we rotate we can always pick it up).
-Have the strength of the beam divisible from 1-100 in increments of 1 sec. So to send the series 2,45,63, the beam has a strength of 2 for second #1, 45 for second #2 and 63 for second #3. There, you've now sent 3 b/w pixels or one colour pixel. It took 3 seconds.

Of course, this is done much faster and using more sophisticated methods but that's the general idea. So while the info is reaching us at the speed of light, there is only so much info per sec that can be squeezed into a beam of information.
   comment by vinny9 (#33) on January 5, 2004

For anyone who hasn't fallen asleep yet:
http://deepspace.jpl.nasa.gov/dsn/images/album/dsn71.jpg

Apparently you can set your 2018 alarms to go off to remind yourself that people will be on Mars...
   comment by vinny9 (#33) on January 6, 2004

I like the hat pictures:
   comment by dustin (#1) on January 6, 2004

When I saw the hat photo, I asked myself why people don't dress that snazzily these days. Then, I saw the caption. They are hobos!

Some things have changed in New York.
   comment by Mirzipan (#99) on January 7, 2004

many people associate hobos as drunking stret scum and its good to see that these derrogatorie terms dont get these hobos down.
   comment by matt on March 17, 2004

   

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